Oh for God's sake! It was just a remark by some guy at work and this gets blown up by every substack into "Pfizer's head of worldwide R&D states that they're developing Covid variants to infect the world in order that their gene therapies are more effective than the competition." Our side has completely lost their minds.
You are missing a bigger point. Have you ever heard “just a remark by some guy at work” that your employer was engaging in unethical or illegal activities? If so, what did you do?
I did nothing. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my employer is a criminal. I also know all governments and law enforcement agencies also know my employer is a criminal and they cover for them. Everybody on earth knows they should stick with Toyota. Everybody on earth knows Boeing intentionally made a defective aeroplane and even after two planes crashed killing all on board, Boeing, the FAA and the US government claimed it was pilot error. It wasn't until the plane was grounded by every other country in the world that the President of the United States grounded those planes. Dec. 27, 2022 was the deadline to fix those planes and Boeing flat out said they weren't going to do it so Congress changed the law. That's reality. Maybe you're young and you believe things work.
And I don't remember the remark being that they had or they were going to. The guy was just saying we ought to. This Jordon Walker is a director at Pfizer. At that company that means he's an entry level employee. Some guys are talking shit at work and now this becomes Pfizers really doing it.
We know the US military has been playing with viruses forever and that the effort pick up steam in 1984 on Reagan's orders when they realized they could bioengineer them. That's actually why Fauci was hired. We know the US government is the world's largest narcotics trafficker (like Great Britain before them) and the world's largest human sex trafficker and human child sex trafficker (that's one of the reasons for the open border) . Nothing can be done to stop this because they can justify anything on the grounds of "national security." Saying Obama banned gain of function so it had to be done in Wuhan is just a statement. It proves nothing and based on their track record, is not believable.
And here's the crux of it. Comparing Pfizer's virus creating capability with the US military's capability is like comparing a grain of sand to a planet. And we finally get real proof that the US government used the US military to create and release the virus and then create the gene therapies and manipulate everything in the release of them and just when this story is reaching critical mass this video comes out and kills the real story. And now you want to say it's worth it? Isn't this really just about feeling righteous? I think it is.
Really, you guys openly talk about such things at work? You kinda shot your first point all to hell here. First you say that it is just talk then you give examples of employers engaging in really shady activities.
Seriously, what kind of person would make something like that up to impress a date? What kind of person did they think they were dating? During WWII, a Japanese newspaper ran a series detailing a competition between two junior officers; who could collect the most heads of their conquered foes. Of course, said heads were with their swords removed from living captives who were taken from not only the battle field but also from the civilians along the march. At one point, the head lines read that the competition went “into extra innings”. At least one of the two survived the war and was tried as a war criminal. In his defense, he stated that it was all made up. He made it all up to get chicks, basically. Many use this statement to “prove” Japanese were incapable of the crimes their military was accused of. But what kind of society would report this story as if it were a baseball game and cheer them on, true or not? That is the point you are missing. It IS a big deal.
The US military does very little on its own. It contracts out. We do not build our ships nor weapons. Civilian companies respond to calls for plans and build their prototypes to wow the top brass. The winners may get the contract and start building. I find it hard to believe that it is any different with bioweapons, Involved in the research? Certainly. Supervising and guiding it? Oh, yeah. Actually doing the majority of the hands on dirty work? Not buying it.
Fauci was first employed by the US government around 1970, give or take a year or two, predating Reagan.
Not sure where you get your info on Pfizer’s corporate structure, but wife has been working there for over ten years and is now in upper mid management. She has not yet obtained this “entry” level title.
He was cleaning toilets at Pfizer! A fellow toilet cleaner made a remark. It's called black humor. Also called shit talk. That's what comedy is. Sometimes we say things that are outrageous and the complete opposite of what we really think as a joke. Our coworkers know us and can see our face and hear how we say it and they know it meant to be funny. Have the young generation of woketards that have zero life experience and who reduce everything into a single so called fact so they can get outraged invaded the Covid anti narrative space?
Robert Malone lied to you that he was someone important. People in management, even low level management, are way more professional and especially, emotionally mature and self controlled. I knew the second I saw this that it was nonsense and I'm super naive. All he said was a guy at work said they should do this. We have zero idea of the context of this remark. We have zero idea if Pfizer is even capable of this.
And I don't think you know very much. The things the US military has done in and out of war. Or the British military for that matter. The things they've organized and planned and done are so wildly satanic it takes a long time to accept after you've found out. There's a reason the US military draws big beautiful pictures of Baphomet in their buildings and on their equipment. Even if what this guy said what people are imagining the shear lack of proportionality is staggering. Maybe you work for the Pentagon and are being paid to distract from the important evidence.
Evidence of what? IF Covid is a bioweapons, it is a piss poor one. The numbers of people who have been killed outright by this virus is minuscule. Most labeled as a “covid death” were in fact taken by more than one, often more than 2, other preexisting health issues. Covid just assisted but was given the credit. That is why the argument over “died with vs. died of” is so important. So few die due to the SARS Cov 2 virus that it would hardly register if not for the disproportionate reaction, the panic. Early on doctors around the world said that we do not have a viral pandemic, we have a world wide pandemic of malnutrition made apparent by a virus.
Covid does not kill, lockdowns do. Covid does not kill, the clot shots do. Covid does not kill. The utter disruption of society kills. Covid does not kill. The destruction of livelihoods and jobs kill.
I personally know 11 people who have caught Covid and five more who are family members of people I know. 2 of these have caught it twice. I know not a single individual who has died of it. I know of friends of friends numbers 5 who are reported to have died of covid. However, I do know two people who have died suddenly. Learned of one two days ago. 38 years old. Covid does not kill suddenly.
There are those who claim the virus does not exist. I am not one of those, however, it need not exist for the destruction every country on the planet with but little exceptions has caused buy their panic over it. This disease never warranted anything like the responses we are witnessing.
Covid is nothing but an excuse for all that they have imposed upon us to stop it.
You have far too high an opinion of medical professionals. Try talking to them about masks and see how “rational” they are……n’t.
I do not appreciate your insulting comments. Uncalled for and immature.
It smells kind of funny to me as well. How could a loose-lipped doofus like that ever get to a position of being a director of Pfizer? I'm wondering if the guy was some kind of actor (on Pfizer's side) that drew in the Project Veritas folks to later reveal the guy wasn't who he said he was in order to discredit Project Veritas and anyone who shared the video as if it was genuine.
agree too, it is all very strange. PV interviewer first says, will keep secret, now millions can see that? And that R. Malone plays with, adds to it all a huge question mark. Just my opinion. The more people are dying due to the shots, the more mixed information is send out everywhere, for, no 1: to confuse, no 2: to discredit real truth tellers, while in the same time FDA continues its crimes of 'approvals'.
If it is indeed true, then it actually confirms what many are saying for long time (among others, Dr. Mikovits for example, my own research..), the dis-eases are coming from the premeditated, patented and then 'made to happen in a real world' pharmaceutical experimentation.
This comes up on DuckDuckGo, but there's no info when click on the page.
In the Twitter Spaces talk, they're saying he took down his linkedin.
They did verification / called his boss / got pfizer docs / saw his email that's @Pfizer, etc. This does look like an actor making fun of what's too awful to say outloud. But, reality is theater of the absurd these days. Tomorrow, PV will have a video of when Jordan is confronted in a restaurant. https://www.linkedin.com › in › jordon-walker-m-d-4a321a24
Jordon Walker, M.D. Director, Worldwide R&D Strategic Operations and mRNA Scientific Planning at Pfizer New York, New York, United States 418 followers 421 connections Join to connect Pfizer...
IMHO there was no pandemic -- the numbers and changed definition establish that beyond reasonable doubt -- however there WAS an epidemic, and it was NOT "Flu," although flu may also have been present. Anyone who has NOT had the illness is in a very poor position to claim it is "Just like flu."
If it was an actor, it would be the perfect thing to discredit PV. But, look at some of the people in places of power right now - like Sam Brinton (they / them), who (was) in charge of Nuclear Energy and got caught stealing women's luggage from an airport.
I did look online and didn't find anything (on a quick search), with that name and that spelling. But probably PV did their due diligence to verify. And I appreciate Dr Bridle sharing the pictures of Pfizer employee info. Just started listening to the Twitter spaces talk.
He's apparently on a date with another guy who had worked for Pfizer. They are talking shop. I work in med comms (working for agencies who work for pharma companies) and have done this for 20 years. I absolutely believe the content of this video. It just rings true to me.
The first lie that must be dispensed with is that there ever was a pandemic.
Repeating that lie covers up the criminal acts that occurred in hospitals and nursing homes which were the justification for the phony pandemic and falsely catapulted the Big Lie that there was some dangerous "novel virus" that threatened people- there wasn't.
There was no "pandemic."
It’s imperative that everyone stop ceding ground to these fascists by reifying the Big Lie that "Covid" is a unique disease and that it is responsible for a global pandemic.
"Covid" the disease is pure fiction. All the rest of it (biolabs / batsoup / bioweapons / lableaks) is political theatre and bread and circuses. They gamed the system to code for "covid deaths."
This has never had anything to with what is nothing more than a computer-generated genome falsely attributed to a novel pathogen. It is a global conspiracy by the worlds transnational ruling class which was planned out and war-gamed at the WEF, the central bankers summit in Jackson Hole, and at Event 201.
Once you get people to assent to a world that makes no sense you can get them to do anything. That's precisely what the Covid Cult is: it competes with the real world. Strategy of tension, mass mind manipulation, a psychological operation, the general population hypnotised right in front of your eyes.
99% of people falsely certified as having ‘died from covid’ actually died from their preexisting conditions being exacerbated by mass medical malpractice and ‘public health’ despotism, the other 1% simply died of old age.
Translation: No one has "died from Covid" as “Covid” is nothing more than a fraudulent PCR result plus a nebulous clinical re-branding of cold, “flu” and many other disease conditions.
So we have a bunch of "Disbelievers" here... How many of you have had the illness? I've argued this point with Allen before, on other substacks -- the illness is VERY real, and quite different than ordinary flu. You can set aside the sensationalism, overblown numbers, and ridiculous PCR tests, but at the core, there is still a very real toxic agent that is causing widespread illness.
Nobody is clueless just because they scoff at someone who wants to throw the entire study of virology out the window. I would be very interested to hear Dr. Bridle's take on the matter.
Thanks for the opportunity to weigh in. Here is my relatively quick take...
I am an immunologist and virologist. I can attest to the existence of viruses. In my opinion, there is more than ample proof. Among many other lines of evidence, we now have the technology to fully synthesize viruses. An entire viral genome can be artificially constructed by piecing together nucleotide sequences. These can then be 'rescued' to obtain replication-competent virions that can be photographed with electron microscopy. They can be sequenced to verify their identify. They also behave exactly as predicted based on virological principles. Following the principle of virus mutations via error-prone polymerases (proteins that copy the virus genome so new virions can be made), one can observe subtle mutations over time via sequencing. Etc., etc.
I have heard people go so far as to question the existence of viruses because they are propagated in cell lines other than the cells they target during an infection. E.g., why aren't respiratory viruses grown in primary lung-derived cells? The answer is simple, cell lines used to propagate viruses are what we call 'permissive cell lines'. They lack mechanisms of anti-viral defense, thereby allowing a wide array of viruses to replicate in them. Primary cells (like those that would be taken directly from a person's lungs) typically have potent anti-viral mechanisms that allow them to readily shut down or impair viral replication. Hence the reason for using a limited array of pre-established cell lines to grow viruses. There is no hidden agenda.
PCR testing for SARS-CoV-2 is undoubtedly flawed in how it is being applied, but the routine sequencing results show that there is a viral genome being transmitted widely.
I can't possibly go into regurgitating the massive mountain of evidence supporting the concept of the existence of viruses in this forum. I would rather focus my energies on helping to clarify the massive amount of COVID-19 misinformation that has caused many people to suffer under unreasonable and often misguided public health policies.
At the end of the day, people are welcome to think what they want. I just ask that I not be judged harshly for something that I believe and for which I have massive amounts of evidence and personal experience to support it.
And I concur, the clinical characteristics of COVID-19 are distinct from the flu, particularly in severe cases. Also, the immune response is different (e.g. different cytokine profiles, etc.) and there are other substantial differences.
If we begin discussions about COVID-19 with attempts to discard an entire field of science that has existed for decades, any hope of reasoning with those pushing non-science-based policies will be lost.
There are some people who want me, a viral immunologist who specialized in vaccinology, to renounce the existence of viruses and/or renounce the concept of a vaccine. I will not do so as long as the mountains of evidence that I have seen continue to outweigh the relative mole hills of scientific evidence on the other side. By the way, when I refer to the 'concept of a vaccine', I mean an ideal vaccine that can achieve the gold standard equivalent of naturally acquired immunity (or close to it) in the absence of excessive risks. I do not support 'vaccines' that fare poorly in a reasonable risk-benefit analysis.
I've had the illness - it's real. (And I'm not mistaking it for a vaccine reaction - I avoided the shots. It wasn't from shedding, I got it from someone unvax'd, and I avoid close contact with recently vax'd people.)
The illness itself was one terrible, painful night out of five tired but not-so-bad days. I think early treatment helped the painful part be brief, and the acute phase be manageable, despite other health problems that are exactly what covid makes worse, including epstein-barr.
But after I walked one long block to take a (saliva - they work just as well, I think), test (negative), and one long block home, slowly, knowing not to raise heart rate, I was crushed by exhaustion that I honestly consider far worse than death.
That's why talking about covid in terms of the fatality rate leaves out so much. And why minimizing it seems like not considering that some people (not just very old - I'm under 50, but elders matter too) - can remain sick for a long time after covid. Then the side that's let their compassion be manipulated by the narrative, judges covid dissidents as selfish, and doesn't listen to anything.
Not justifying anything done in covid's name (besides maybe considering ventilation, and the common sense aspects of respiratory hygiene). But it's a difficult thing to grapple with, it exists, and dismissing that is more of a block to being understood ... Dr Bridle's response below about viruses, from someone who knows them well, makes a lot of sense ...
No, the disease is not pure fiction .. it came from idiots and psychopaths messing around with life by "directing evolution", and serial passaging an enhanced virus.
Whether it "leaked" from a lab or was intentionally released, the part that's pure fiction is - The Response To It Was About Public Health. Authorities Know Best. Assume Everyone Is Infected. Masks Slow The Spread. Safe and Effective Will Defeat the Virus. Small Businesses are Dangerous but Big Box Stores are Safe. All *That* is pure fiction. The disease is not.
People who have had it say it feels like a bioweapon, and it did. After five days of covid, only one that was terrible, the rest just a tired blur trying to keep track of so many aspects of treatment - I wasn't able to walk more than a few steps without collapsing (brought on by slowly walking one long block to a covid test and one long block back). This isn't to justify anything done in covid's name, but both of them - the virus that combines biology and technology, and the injection that give instructions to make a poison, wrapped in another poison - they are both poisons. The injection is worse, no argument there.
But covid is real (and I'm not vax'd, got it from someone also not vax'd).
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I'm sure early treatment helped the acute phase be not so bad, and the bad part be less than one day. I've had the flu before - I think I felt worse when I had the flu, than most of the days of acute covid. But then the flu went away. Covid is creepy shit. Doesn't justify anything that's been done in its name. But it's real.
This guy in PV video does not seem credible for the position he holds- his verbiage doesn't fit the position. It's just as likely he is a "crisis actor" trained by a PR firm like Burston-Marstellar and hired by Pfizer for this role.
In discussion Tom Fitton just stated "we need to stop this GoF so we don't get hit by another pathogen that decimates us"
That is complete nonsense- "we" were hit by vicious hospital protocols and impacts of societal destruction followed by mass poisoning via toxic mRNA injections.
All of these people in this discussion are reifying the lie that there was a viral pandemic- there wasn't- it was administrative slaughter. There is no excuse for this at this point.
Don't care whether you believe me or not. I've worked in med comms for 20 years. This video very much rings true to me (including the type of guy in the video).
I don’t know for sure, but I strongly suspect Project Veritas was at the end of their own joke here. They got played by the Defense agencies who “leaked” this “super secret” information (that is plastered all over their public documents and websites, you just need to read it!), and PV bought it hook, line and sinker.
PS. Doesn’t really matter if the interviewee here really works for Pfizer and really believes what he says in this video. I am pretty sure he does and does. That’s the point. As long as you hire the people of certain intellectual lightweight and a non-functioning moral compass (current university system is perfectly geared to produce this product) it is easy to set them up to repeat the lines you want with conviction."
You are not the final arbiter of “evidence”, nor the determiner of “conjecture” - people have the right to hold different views, faith in different “beliefs”, “evidence”, “facts”, “findings” & eventually with the hope that TRUTHS will be revealed & documented. Until then ...there’s a ton of conspiracy theories, ideas, & suggestions floating around - which MANY have come to be proven true. I will NOT discount anything - not even the use of snake venom, etc. Obviously, you haven’t seen the recent video in the past week with Dr Ardis & Jonathan Otto.
"You are not the final arbiter of “evidence”, nor the determiner of “conjecture” - people have the right to hold different views, faith in different “beliefs”, “evidence”, “facts”, “findings” & eventually with the hope that TRUTHS will be revealed & documented..."
All true.
Still doesn't get you anywhere.
I don't do "beliefs" nor "hope."
Criminal conspiracies are not theories- they are legally defined offenses.
I'll leave you to the Ardis and Otto videos- Ardis should have stuck to the remdesivir murders which are concrete evidence, Funny we don't hear much about it any longer and the hospitals is precisely where the ofcus should be to indict various criminals and illustrate that the entire Covid program is a fraud.
Time will tell - I can wait - since I didn’t buy into the Bigg Pharm”ass” narrative - I have nothing to lose by listening to all “Conspiracy Theories” now.
but there is also snake venom in the sewers as the hapless victims of pfizer vaccines urinate into receptacles which transfer their affections to the sewers.
What I got from this is they’re thinking of attempting to force mutations of the virus IN THE LAB (but not in the wild version) so that IF the wild version mutates in a similar fashion, they’ll be ready for them. The question is, ought we to trust them with something that sounds sketchy and dangerous as hell?
The fact that Pfizer is doing the gain of function [by any other name] research at all should horrify you. The fact that they are doing it on monkeys and causing their suffering, should disgust you. And the fact that Pfizer still thinks they can force people to take their experimental and deadly injections—still not FDA approved—should outrage you.
Wishful thinking at this point. This scenario doesn’t fit what we know about these monsters by now. There is NO conscience in this entity. Along with the toxic humans swarming in the hive.
Why are people falling for the bs narrative that anyone can "mutate" viruses, much less the idiots who work at Pfizer and OUTSOURCE ALL R&D!! These "senior executives" need a million dollar management consulting team to help them find a way out of a paper bag. It is plain racket selling everyone scary stories in order to make up the next hoax and sell "protection".
This video is everywhere on the Internet. The guy is a clown and I can't see him as a Director of a dog show much less a Pfizer department. Maybe you should ask Michael Yeadon what he thinks of this since he was a vice president at Pfizer.
Like all the characters in charge in our Federal Government? Look at the guy in charge of energy or transportation. None of these people are in charge for their intellect. All about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
...do not forget that a lot of people act differently in different settings, and he was not at work; he let his guard down, and had no idea he was being filmed. He's also quite the pompous ass. Also, after seeing so many obviously inept people in positions of power these last three years, his words, and egotistical demeanour does not shock me. What continues to shock me is that a massive portion of the population seems to still be asleep, and blissfully unaware of what is taking place. Don't get me started on what I think of mass media, so called health professionals, and academia. I imagine, and despair, that it will take almost a tsunami of death and injury before things will change for the better. It is hard some days to see beauty, but I try.
Dear Dr. Bridle and readers -- I transcribed the interview into text here: https://infogame.substack.com/p/text-transcription-of-undercover It's about 2000 words so I can't paste it here. In case some people need to pick out a quote or prefer reading it over watching...
SARS-CoV-2? Are you talking about the CGI Metagenomics Fiction which has never been isolated, characterized, or observed in nature? http://TinyURL.com/NoRecordFound
You're looking very stupid by implying otherwise. There isn't anyone on the planet whose nerves wouldn't be frayed if they had lived in Dr. Malone's shoes for the last two years.
I was suspicious from the time he declared that he took two doses of the Moderna vaccine. This means he did not bother to find that mRNA-based vaccines were never approved even for animals. They are not immunogenic and penetrate the whole body. After transforming cells and directing them to produce the foreign antigen (the spike protein) such cells are destroyed by the immune system with dire consequences. The metanalysis of such vaccines was published in 2019, see: A Comparison of Plasmid DNA and mRNA as Vaccine Technologies
#1 I didn't fall for the jab. Unlike Malone (or so he claims), who's supposed to know everything about it.
#2 I have used repurposed meds for both prevention and treatment of my nothing-burger delta case. One would think, since Malone has spent so much time working with repurposing drugs, he would have all the expertise necessary to treat himself and not wind up hospitalized.
#3 I don't use lawfare tactics and go around suing other people for millions of dollars, trying to frighten them into silence. People are permitted to publicly disagree with those who put their opinions out for public consumption.
#4 I have tried to guide others within my circle of family/friends to see the truth, with regard to the covid nightmare.
You'll see the backstory as it unravels. Many people are onto this guy.
Just an aside, the "what have YOU done" tactic is tired and lame at this point. Not to mention lazy.
The most disturbing part for me is this dude thinks this is all so funny. I don't care if he was drunk at the time of this interview he's destroying people's lives and giggling about it. Another psychopath...
Reactions from the usual suspects seem to be that this is some kind of new and unprecedented evil, but in fact it differs only (a little) in scale - but not in substance - from the deeds of many other international capitalist organizations. Remember BigTobacco? And what about BigPesticide and glyphosate, not to mention the Neonicotinoid and other pesticides and that have led to catastrophic declines in insect numbers, not only bees? BigPetroleum? BigYou-Name-It? Are not these examples also a threat to world-wide public health and survivability of life on earth?
There is as little moral responsibility for these companies and their enterprises as there now is for BigPharma.
But until we can accept that these companies are just playing by the rules of the game of capitalism, and until we are willing, determined and capable of attacking the source of the problem, not just its symptoms, we have little chance of guiding the planet into a stable and beneficial-for-all mode.
See my review of Joel Kovel's masterpiece, The Enemy of Nature
I can't say I'm totally shocked, given Pfizer's history of malfeasance, but I am shocked just the same.
The extensive corruption and capture of regulators certainly extends into my country Canada, and most other countries as well, I imagine.
Who do we turn to?
Who can we trust anymore?
Oh for God's sake! It was just a remark by some guy at work and this gets blown up by every substack into "Pfizer's head of worldwide R&D states that they're developing Covid variants to infect the world in order that their gene therapies are more effective than the competition." Our side has completely lost their minds.
You are missing a bigger point. Have you ever heard “just a remark by some guy at work” that your employer was engaging in unethical or illegal activities? If so, what did you do?
I did nothing. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my employer is a criminal. I also know all governments and law enforcement agencies also know my employer is a criminal and they cover for them. Everybody on earth knows they should stick with Toyota. Everybody on earth knows Boeing intentionally made a defective aeroplane and even after two planes crashed killing all on board, Boeing, the FAA and the US government claimed it was pilot error. It wasn't until the plane was grounded by every other country in the world that the President of the United States grounded those planes. Dec. 27, 2022 was the deadline to fix those planes and Boeing flat out said they weren't going to do it so Congress changed the law. That's reality. Maybe you're young and you believe things work.
And I don't remember the remark being that they had or they were going to. The guy was just saying we ought to. This Jordon Walker is a director at Pfizer. At that company that means he's an entry level employee. Some guys are talking shit at work and now this becomes Pfizers really doing it.
We know the US military has been playing with viruses forever and that the effort pick up steam in 1984 on Reagan's orders when they realized they could bioengineer them. That's actually why Fauci was hired. We know the US government is the world's largest narcotics trafficker (like Great Britain before them) and the world's largest human sex trafficker and human child sex trafficker (that's one of the reasons for the open border) . Nothing can be done to stop this because they can justify anything on the grounds of "national security." Saying Obama banned gain of function so it had to be done in Wuhan is just a statement. It proves nothing and based on their track record, is not believable.
And here's the crux of it. Comparing Pfizer's virus creating capability with the US military's capability is like comparing a grain of sand to a planet. And we finally get real proof that the US government used the US military to create and release the virus and then create the gene therapies and manipulate everything in the release of them and just when this story is reaching critical mass this video comes out and kills the real story. And now you want to say it's worth it? Isn't this really just about feeling righteous? I think it is.
Really, you guys openly talk about such things at work? You kinda shot your first point all to hell here. First you say that it is just talk then you give examples of employers engaging in really shady activities.
Seriously, what kind of person would make something like that up to impress a date? What kind of person did they think they were dating? During WWII, a Japanese newspaper ran a series detailing a competition between two junior officers; who could collect the most heads of their conquered foes. Of course, said heads were with their swords removed from living captives who were taken from not only the battle field but also from the civilians along the march. At one point, the head lines read that the competition went “into extra innings”. At least one of the two survived the war and was tried as a war criminal. In his defense, he stated that it was all made up. He made it all up to get chicks, basically. Many use this statement to “prove” Japanese were incapable of the crimes their military was accused of. But what kind of society would report this story as if it were a baseball game and cheer them on, true or not? That is the point you are missing. It IS a big deal.
The US military does very little on its own. It contracts out. We do not build our ships nor weapons. Civilian companies respond to calls for plans and build their prototypes to wow the top brass. The winners may get the contract and start building. I find it hard to believe that it is any different with bioweapons, Involved in the research? Certainly. Supervising and guiding it? Oh, yeah. Actually doing the majority of the hands on dirty work? Not buying it.
Fauci was first employed by the US government around 1970, give or take a year or two, predating Reagan.
Not sure where you get your info on Pfizer’s corporate structure, but wife has been working there for over ten years and is now in upper mid management. She has not yet obtained this “entry” level title.
He was cleaning toilets at Pfizer! A fellow toilet cleaner made a remark. It's called black humor. Also called shit talk. That's what comedy is. Sometimes we say things that are outrageous and the complete opposite of what we really think as a joke. Our coworkers know us and can see our face and hear how we say it and they know it meant to be funny. Have the young generation of woketards that have zero life experience and who reduce everything into a single so called fact so they can get outraged invaded the Covid anti narrative space?
Robert Malone lied to you that he was someone important. People in management, even low level management, are way more professional and especially, emotionally mature and self controlled. I knew the second I saw this that it was nonsense and I'm super naive. All he said was a guy at work said they should do this. We have zero idea of the context of this remark. We have zero idea if Pfizer is even capable of this.
And I don't think you know very much. The things the US military has done in and out of war. Or the British military for that matter. The things they've organized and planned and done are so wildly satanic it takes a long time to accept after you've found out. There's a reason the US military draws big beautiful pictures of Baphomet in their buildings and on their equipment. Even if what this guy said what people are imagining the shear lack of proportionality is staggering. Maybe you work for the Pentagon and are being paid to distract from the important evidence.
Evidence of what? IF Covid is a bioweapons, it is a piss poor one. The numbers of people who have been killed outright by this virus is minuscule. Most labeled as a “covid death” were in fact taken by more than one, often more than 2, other preexisting health issues. Covid just assisted but was given the credit. That is why the argument over “died with vs. died of” is so important. So few die due to the SARS Cov 2 virus that it would hardly register if not for the disproportionate reaction, the panic. Early on doctors around the world said that we do not have a viral pandemic, we have a world wide pandemic of malnutrition made apparent by a virus.
Covid does not kill, lockdowns do. Covid does not kill, the clot shots do. Covid does not kill. The utter disruption of society kills. Covid does not kill. The destruction of livelihoods and jobs kill.
I personally know 11 people who have caught Covid and five more who are family members of people I know. 2 of these have caught it twice. I know not a single individual who has died of it. I know of friends of friends numbers 5 who are reported to have died of covid. However, I do know two people who have died suddenly. Learned of one two days ago. 38 years old. Covid does not kill suddenly.
There are those who claim the virus does not exist. I am not one of those, however, it need not exist for the destruction every country on the planet with but little exceptions has caused buy their panic over it. This disease never warranted anything like the responses we are witnessing.
Covid is nothing but an excuse for all that they have imposed upon us to stop it.
You have far too high an opinion of medical professionals. Try talking to them about masks and see how “rational” they are……n’t.
I do not appreciate your insulting comments. Uncalled for and immature.
Do not recall exactly who, but a high ranking Pfizer executive was the guest of honor of the Japanese PM during the Tokyo Olympics.
Are they going to pay me to have sex with supermodels and I don't even have to leave home? If I first get to vet them, sign me up.
And I want $200 an hour in cash, up front, and no country & western music allowed.
Have people double checked the veracity of this video and report?
That Robert Malone comes in makes it even more dubious.
Yes Pfizer would boil children for profit but something doesn't smell quite right about this.
Please no more snake venom in the sewers.
It smells kind of funny to me as well. How could a loose-lipped doofus like that ever get to a position of being a director of Pfizer? I'm wondering if the guy was some kind of actor (on Pfizer's side) that drew in the Project Veritas folks to later reveal the guy wasn't who he said he was in order to discredit Project Veritas and anyone who shared the video as if it was genuine.
Hi Nick,
Hi Allen, check out the Twitter spaces discussion that is on right now (9:55 pm EST). >17,000 people in the discussion. Link: https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1618327405680283648
agree too, it is all very strange. PV interviewer first says, will keep secret, now millions can see that? And that R. Malone plays with, adds to it all a huge question mark. Just my opinion. The more people are dying due to the shots, the more mixed information is send out everywhere, for, no 1: to confuse, no 2: to discredit real truth tellers, while in the same time FDA continues its crimes of 'approvals'.
If it is indeed true, then it actually confirms what many are saying for long time (among others, Dr. Mikovits for example, my own research..), the dis-eases are coming from the premeditated, patented and then 'made to happen in a real world' pharmaceutical experimentation.
This comes up on DuckDuckGo, but there's no info when click on the page.
In the Twitter Spaces talk, they're saying he took down his linkedin.
They did verification / called his boss / got pfizer docs / saw his email that's @Pfizer, etc. This does look like an actor making fun of what's too awful to say outloud. But, reality is theater of the absurd these days. Tomorrow, PV will have a video of when Jordan is confronted in a restaurant. https://www.linkedin.com › in › jordon-walker-m-d-4a321a24
Jordon Walker, M.D. - Director, Worldwide R&D Strategic Operations and ...
Jordon Walker, M.D. Director, Worldwide R&D Strategic Operations and mRNA Scientific Planning at Pfizer New York, New York, United States 418 followers 421 connections Join to connect Pfizer...
You believe there was a viral pandemic in 2020?
no, there wasn't. It was the same bad flu season ever since 2018. The real plandemic came with the jabs. Just my opinion.
IMHO there was no pandemic -- the numbers and changed definition establish that beyond reasonable doubt -- however there WAS an epidemic, and it was NOT "Flu," although flu may also have been present. Anyone who has NOT had the illness is in a very poor position to claim it is "Just like flu."
If it was an actor, it would be the perfect thing to discredit PV. But, look at some of the people in places of power right now - like Sam Brinton (they / them), who (was) in charge of Nuclear Energy and got caught stealing women's luggage from an airport.
I did look online and didn't find anything (on a quick search), with that name and that spelling. But probably PV did their due diligence to verify. And I appreciate Dr Bridle sharing the pictures of Pfizer employee info. Just started listening to the Twitter spaces talk.
He’s on a date trying to impress. Once i heard that his behavior made sense to me.
He's apparently on a date with another guy who had worked for Pfizer. They are talking shop. I work in med comms (working for agencies who work for pharma companies) and have done this for 20 years. I absolutely believe the content of this video. It just rings true to me.
To me too Maria. Absolutely true. And if you doubted it, just look at his actions when exposed. Split second realization end of everything.
Some of the directors in pharma companies are very young. He's just one in that category.
What are you mumbling about?
Project Veritas asked Dr. Malone to comment on it before releasing it.
Why not?
Snake venom?
This is not the Stew Peters Show-Dr. Malone is suing him, in fact.
Try to keep up.
You are clueless.
LOL. How so?
The first lie that must be dispensed with is that there ever was a pandemic.
Repeating that lie covers up the criminal acts that occurred in hospitals and nursing homes which were the justification for the phony pandemic and falsely catapulted the Big Lie that there was some dangerous "novel virus" that threatened people- there wasn't.
There was no "pandemic."
It’s imperative that everyone stop ceding ground to these fascists by reifying the Big Lie that "Covid" is a unique disease and that it is responsible for a global pandemic.
"Covid" the disease is pure fiction. All the rest of it (biolabs / batsoup / bioweapons / lableaks) is political theatre and bread and circuses. They gamed the system to code for "covid deaths."
This has never had anything to with what is nothing more than a computer-generated genome falsely attributed to a novel pathogen. It is a global conspiracy by the worlds transnational ruling class which was planned out and war-gamed at the WEF, the central bankers summit in Jackson Hole, and at Event 201.
Once you get people to assent to a world that makes no sense you can get them to do anything. That's precisely what the Covid Cult is: it competes with the real world. Strategy of tension, mass mind manipulation, a psychological operation, the general population hypnotised right in front of your eyes.
99% of people falsely certified as having ‘died from covid’ actually died from their preexisting conditions being exacerbated by mass medical malpractice and ‘public health’ despotism, the other 1% simply died of old age.
Translation: No one has "died from Covid" as “Covid” is nothing more than a fraudulent PCR result plus a nebulous clinical re-branding of cold, “flu” and many other disease conditions.
So we have a bunch of "Disbelievers" here... How many of you have had the illness? I've argued this point with Allen before, on other substacks -- the illness is VERY real, and quite different than ordinary flu. You can set aside the sensationalism, overblown numbers, and ridiculous PCR tests, but at the core, there is still a very real toxic agent that is causing widespread illness.
Nobody is clueless just because they scoff at someone who wants to throw the entire study of virology out the window. I would be very interested to hear Dr. Bridle's take on the matter.
Hi Don,
Thanks for the opportunity to weigh in. Here is my relatively quick take...
I am an immunologist and virologist. I can attest to the existence of viruses. In my opinion, there is more than ample proof. Among many other lines of evidence, we now have the technology to fully synthesize viruses. An entire viral genome can be artificially constructed by piecing together nucleotide sequences. These can then be 'rescued' to obtain replication-competent virions that can be photographed with electron microscopy. They can be sequenced to verify their identify. They also behave exactly as predicted based on virological principles. Following the principle of virus mutations via error-prone polymerases (proteins that copy the virus genome so new virions can be made), one can observe subtle mutations over time via sequencing. Etc., etc.
I have heard people go so far as to question the existence of viruses because they are propagated in cell lines other than the cells they target during an infection. E.g., why aren't respiratory viruses grown in primary lung-derived cells? The answer is simple, cell lines used to propagate viruses are what we call 'permissive cell lines'. They lack mechanisms of anti-viral defense, thereby allowing a wide array of viruses to replicate in them. Primary cells (like those that would be taken directly from a person's lungs) typically have potent anti-viral mechanisms that allow them to readily shut down or impair viral replication. Hence the reason for using a limited array of pre-established cell lines to grow viruses. There is no hidden agenda.
PCR testing for SARS-CoV-2 is undoubtedly flawed in how it is being applied, but the routine sequencing results show that there is a viral genome being transmitted widely.
I can't possibly go into regurgitating the massive mountain of evidence supporting the concept of the existence of viruses in this forum. I would rather focus my energies on helping to clarify the massive amount of COVID-19 misinformation that has caused many people to suffer under unreasonable and often misguided public health policies.
At the end of the day, people are welcome to think what they want. I just ask that I not be judged harshly for something that I believe and for which I have massive amounts of evidence and personal experience to support it.
And I concur, the clinical characteristics of COVID-19 are distinct from the flu, particularly in severe cases. Also, the immune response is different (e.g. different cytokine profiles, etc.) and there are other substantial differences.
If we begin discussions about COVID-19 with attempts to discard an entire field of science that has existed for decades, any hope of reasoning with those pushing non-science-based policies will be lost.
There are some people who want me, a viral immunologist who specialized in vaccinology, to renounce the existence of viruses and/or renounce the concept of a vaccine. I will not do so as long as the mountains of evidence that I have seen continue to outweigh the relative mole hills of scientific evidence on the other side. By the way, when I refer to the 'concept of a vaccine', I mean an ideal vaccine that can achieve the gold standard equivalent of naturally acquired immunity (or close to it) in the absence of excessive risks. I do not support 'vaccines' that fare poorly in a reasonable risk-benefit analysis.
I've had the illness - it's real. (And I'm not mistaking it for a vaccine reaction - I avoided the shots. It wasn't from shedding, I got it from someone unvax'd, and I avoid close contact with recently vax'd people.)
The illness itself was one terrible, painful night out of five tired but not-so-bad days. I think early treatment helped the painful part be brief, and the acute phase be manageable, despite other health problems that are exactly what covid makes worse, including epstein-barr.
But after I walked one long block to take a (saliva - they work just as well, I think), test (negative), and one long block home, slowly, knowing not to raise heart rate, I was crushed by exhaustion that I honestly consider far worse than death.
That's why talking about covid in terms of the fatality rate leaves out so much. And why minimizing it seems like not considering that some people (not just very old - I'm under 50, but elders matter too) - can remain sick for a long time after covid. Then the side that's let their compassion be manipulated by the narrative, judges covid dissidents as selfish, and doesn't listen to anything.
Not justifying anything done in covid's name (besides maybe considering ventilation, and the common sense aspects of respiratory hygiene). But it's a difficult thing to grapple with, it exists, and dismissing that is more of a block to being understood ... Dr Bridle's response below about viruses, from someone who knows them well, makes a lot of sense ...
No, the disease is not pure fiction .. it came from idiots and psychopaths messing around with life by "directing evolution", and serial passaging an enhanced virus.
Whether it "leaked" from a lab or was intentionally released, the part that's pure fiction is - The Response To It Was About Public Health. Authorities Know Best. Assume Everyone Is Infected. Masks Slow The Spread. Safe and Effective Will Defeat the Virus. Small Businesses are Dangerous but Big Box Stores are Safe. All *That* is pure fiction. The disease is not.
People who have had it say it feels like a bioweapon, and it did. After five days of covid, only one that was terrible, the rest just a tired blur trying to keep track of so many aspects of treatment - I wasn't able to walk more than a few steps without collapsing (brought on by slowly walking one long block to a covid test and one long block back). This isn't to justify anything done in covid's name, but both of them - the virus that combines biology and technology, and the injection that give instructions to make a poison, wrapped in another poison - they are both poisons. The injection is worse, no argument there.
But covid is real (and I'm not vax'd, got it from someone also not vax'd).
If I hadn't been led to a place with an amazing crystal / biophotonic machine that I didn't think would help but I was desperate to try anything, I may have remained in a place much worse than death. This place and their Wave 360 machine saved me ~ http://newlifecenternyc.com/
I'm sure early treatment helped the acute phase be not so bad, and the bad part be less than one day. I've had the flu before - I think I felt worse when I had the flu, than most of the days of acute covid. But then the flu went away. Covid is creepy shit. Doesn't justify anything that's been done in its name. But it's real.
I was asking why you called me "clueless' for filling you in on Stew Peters, the new Project Veritas video, and Dr. Malone.
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You seem to be as much of a zealot as your typical Branch Covidian.
Hi Allen, check out the Twitter spaces discussion that is on right now (9:55 pm EST). >17,000 people in the discussion. Link: https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1618327405680283648
This guy in PV video does not seem credible for the position he holds- his verbiage doesn't fit the position. It's just as likely he is a "crisis actor" trained by a PR firm like Burston-Marstellar and hired by Pfizer for this role.
In discussion Tom Fitton just stated "we need to stop this GoF so we don't get hit by another pathogen that decimates us"
That is complete nonsense- "we" were hit by vicious hospital protocols and impacts of societal destruction followed by mass poisoning via toxic mRNA injections.
All of these people in this discussion are reifying the lie that there was a viral pandemic- there wasn't- it was administrative slaughter. There is no excuse for this at this point.
He seems very credible to me. I work in med comms (working for agencies working for pharma companies). I absolutely believe this video.
LMFAO!
Don't care whether you believe me or not. I've worked in med comms for 20 years. This video very much rings true to me (including the type of guy in the video).
LOL!
People in such positions always have multiple online references- they brag all day about who they are.
Does he have Linked-In account?
Listening.
"Lab leak" virus story is a red herring Byram. This serves to reinforce this entirely fraudulent "Covid" narrative.
Now we're talking about "origins of the variants" and assorted endless distractions.
Hi Allen. Pretty sure I’ve been seeing you across multiple threads. I tend to agree with most you have to say…
I listened to 2/3 of the twitter spaces talk so far ... I gathered from that that PV did their due diligence to verify .. But today seeing what Sasha Latypova wrote, and a comment from a Brownstone writer about things not adding up - https://brianoshea.substack.com/p/who-is-jordon-trishton-walker?utm_campaign=auto_share
I'm not so sure PV didn't get taken in? This makes sense, especially coming from such a qualified person who knows the inside of Pharma ~
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/omg-pfizer-is-mutating-covid
"Please DO NOT FALL FOR THIS!
I don’t know for sure, but I strongly suspect Project Veritas was at the end of their own joke here. They got played by the Defense agencies who “leaked” this “super secret” information (that is plastered all over their public documents and websites, you just need to read it!), and PV bought it hook, line and sinker.
PS. Doesn’t really matter if the interviewee here really works for Pfizer and really believes what he says in this video. I am pretty sure he does and does. That’s the point. As long as you hire the people of certain intellectual lightweight and a non-functioning moral compass (current university system is perfectly geared to produce this product) it is easy to set them up to repeat the lines you want with conviction."
I choose to believe in the potential snake venom -but, it’s not in the sewers
We need to get away from the realm of "beliefs" and stay in the world of evidence.
There's plenty of evidence of multiple crimes from the Covid Operation- no need for conjecture.
You are not the final arbiter of “evidence”, nor the determiner of “conjecture” - people have the right to hold different views, faith in different “beliefs”, “evidence”, “facts”, “findings” & eventually with the hope that TRUTHS will be revealed & documented. Until then ...there’s a ton of conspiracy theories, ideas, & suggestions floating around - which MANY have come to be proven true. I will NOT discount anything - not even the use of snake venom, etc. Obviously, you haven’t seen the recent video in the past week with Dr Ardis & Jonathan Otto.
"You are not the final arbiter of “evidence”, nor the determiner of “conjecture” - people have the right to hold different views, faith in different “beliefs”, “evidence”, “facts”, “findings” & eventually with the hope that TRUTHS will be revealed & documented..."
All true.
Still doesn't get you anywhere.
I don't do "beliefs" nor "hope."
Criminal conspiracies are not theories- they are legally defined offenses.
I'll leave you to the Ardis and Otto videos- Ardis should have stuck to the remdesivir murders which are concrete evidence, Funny we don't hear much about it any longer and the hospitals is precisely where the ofcus should be to indict various criminals and illustrate that the entire Covid program is a fraud.
But instead we get this?
Time will tell - I can wait - since I didn’t buy into the Bigg Pharm”ass” narrative - I have nothing to lose by listening to all “Conspiracy Theories” now.
LOL!
but there is also snake venom in the sewers as the hapless victims of pfizer vaccines urinate into receptacles which transfer their affections to the sewers.
What I got from this is they’re thinking of attempting to force mutations of the virus IN THE LAB (but not in the wild version) so that IF the wild version mutates in a similar fashion, they’ll be ready for them. The question is, ought we to trust them with something that sounds sketchy and dangerous as hell?
Are you FUCKING serious????
Clearly they learned NOTHING from Wuhan.
Who told you it came from Wuhan? Jeffrey Sachs and the main stream media? The same people that forgot Operation Warp Speed.
The fact that Pfizer is doing the gain of function [by any other name] research at all should horrify you. The fact that they are doing it on monkeys and causing their suffering, should disgust you. And the fact that Pfizer still thinks they can force people to take their experimental and deadly injections—still not FDA approved—should outrage you.
I don't know. The virus and the gene therapy came from the US military so I'd think Pfizer's the least of our problems.
Wishful thinking at this point. This scenario doesn’t fit what we know about these monsters by now. There is NO conscience in this entity. Along with the toxic humans swarming in the hive.
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Yes true. No trust.
The discussion on Twitter is absolutely fascinating! The kind of people talking and what they say it's incredible! Worth listening.
Why are people falling for the bs narrative that anyone can "mutate" viruses, much less the idiots who work at Pfizer and OUTSOURCE ALL R&D!! These "senior executives" need a million dollar management consulting team to help them find a way out of a paper bag. It is plain racket selling everyone scary stories in order to make up the next hoax and sell "protection".
Sasha, are you thinking this guy is a silly bs artist whose words hold no validity? I confess I watched it thinking "fake". Oh dear .
I now note there exists substantial information indicating this chap is the genuine article.
https://open.substack.com/pub/operationsavehumanity/p/breaking-news-vaccine-nanotechnology?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
The discussion on Twitter is fascinating!
Do you know if those conversations are recorded and able to be heard by folks without twitter accounts?
This video is everywhere on the Internet. The guy is a clown and I can't see him as a Director of a dog show much less a Pfizer department. Maybe you should ask Michael Yeadon what he thinks of this since he was a vice president at Pfizer.
Like all the characters in charge in our Federal Government? Look at the guy in charge of energy or transportation. None of these people are in charge for their intellect. All about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
...do not forget that a lot of people act differently in different settings, and he was not at work; he let his guard down, and had no idea he was being filmed. He's also quite the pompous ass. Also, after seeing so many obviously inept people in positions of power these last three years, his words, and egotistical demeanour does not shock me. What continues to shock me is that a massive portion of the population seems to still be asleep, and blissfully unaware of what is taking place. Don't get me started on what I think of mass media, so called health professionals, and academia. I imagine, and despair, that it will take almost a tsunami of death and injury before things will change for the better. It is hard some days to see beauty, but I try.
Even in the current tsunami of death and injury for more than a year nothing has changed.
Good idea.
So Saint Fauci was right when he smugly told Rand Paul there was no "Gain of Function". The Newspeak term is Directed Evolution. Of course.
Dear Dr. Bridle and readers -- I transcribed the interview into text here: https://infogame.substack.com/p/text-transcription-of-undercover It's about 2000 words so I can't paste it here. In case some people need to pick out a quote or prefer reading it over watching...
That person is high on something + alcohol. He will probably suffer from SADs. God save us.
Assuming this is legit, Pfizer will not attempt to rebut it. They will simply ignore it.
SARS-CoV-2? Are you talking about the CGI Metagenomics Fiction which has never been isolated, characterized, or observed in nature? http://TinyURL.com/NoRecordFound
And of course, Malone appears like clockwork in the twitter livestream. The Forrest Gump of all things covid.
What Dr. Robert Malone writes in his Substack makes me wonder about the state of his mental health. He claims that he was a molecular biologist.
You're looking very stupid by implying otherwise. There isn't anyone on the planet whose nerves wouldn't be frayed if they had lived in Dr. Malone's shoes for the last two years.
How could anyone in his right mind make James O'Keefe lose his veracity?
Sorry you don't like Malone; I've found him to be dedicated and knowledgeable. What have YOU done for the movement?
I was suspicious from the time he declared that he took two doses of the Moderna vaccine. This means he did not bother to find that mRNA-based vaccines were never approved even for animals. They are not immunogenic and penetrate the whole body. After transforming cells and directing them to produce the foreign antigen (the spike protein) such cells are destroyed by the immune system with dire consequences. The metanalysis of such vaccines was published in 2019, see: A Comparison of Plasmid DNA and mRNA as Vaccine Technologies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6631684/
#1 I didn't fall for the jab. Unlike Malone (or so he claims), who's supposed to know everything about it.
#2 I have used repurposed meds for both prevention and treatment of my nothing-burger delta case. One would think, since Malone has spent so much time working with repurposing drugs, he would have all the expertise necessary to treat himself and not wind up hospitalized.
#3 I don't use lawfare tactics and go around suing other people for millions of dollars, trying to frighten them into silence. People are permitted to publicly disagree with those who put their opinions out for public consumption.
#4 I have tried to guide others within my circle of family/friends to see the truth, with regard to the covid nightmare.
You'll see the backstory as it unravels. Many people are onto this guy.
Just an aside, the "what have YOU done" tactic is tired and lame at this point. Not to mention lazy.
The most disturbing part for me is this dude thinks this is all so funny. I don't care if he was drunk at the time of this interview he's destroying people's lives and giggling about it. Another psychopath...
LOL- Who else fell for this silly SCAM video?
https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/bigyou-name-it-all-guilty
Reactions from the usual suspects seem to be that this is some kind of new and unprecedented evil, but in fact it differs only (a little) in scale - but not in substance - from the deeds of many other international capitalist organizations. Remember BigTobacco? And what about BigPesticide and glyphosate, not to mention the Neonicotinoid and other pesticides and that have led to catastrophic declines in insect numbers, not only bees? BigPetroleum? BigYou-Name-It? Are not these examples also a threat to world-wide public health and survivability of life on earth?
There is as little moral responsibility for these companies and their enterprises as there now is for BigPharma.
But until we can accept that these companies are just playing by the rules of the game of capitalism, and until we are willing, determined and capable of attacking the source of the problem, not just its symptoms, we have little chance of guiding the planet into a stable and beneficial-for-all mode.
See my review of Joel Kovel's masterpiece, The Enemy of Nature