Steve Kirsch, who lives in the United States of America, contacted me to ask if there were immunological mechanisms that I was aware of that would explain public health messaging that suggests COVID-19 ‘vaccines’ can reduce hospitalizations and deaths while being unable to prevent infection or transmission. I gave him a fulsome answer when we chatted yesterday. It is based on Pfizer’s gold-standard phase 3 clinical trial data. If interested, here is the
Just finished watching your interview with Steve- as always something to keep for my files . I"m glad to see you are "allowed " to stay in your basement as per your employer - very kind of them . Are you allowed in the rest of your house as well ? It is all a totally insane scenario, in my opinion, and so glad you are one of the wonderful heroes we have here in Canada. Hope to be seeing a prison break from your basement one day soon with data that can be debated .
Dr. Bridle, this is a bit off topic, but I'd love your input if you have a chance. I am having to deal with healthcare for my husband lately. I was refused entry to the hospital to accompany him because I won't wear a mask, and the same is sure to happen at the various doctors and clinics he now has to go to for followup appointments. Do we have any recourse against this in Canada? It seems healthcare providers have all turned into super hypochondriacs, they are still doing their ridiculous covid screening and saying you can't come to your appointment if you have cold symptoms. Thanks in advance if you have the chance to answer this.
Indeed, this is a problem. My physician recently refused to renew a prescription until I met with them for a check-up. They tried to make me attend in-person and wear a mask. I insisted on a remote appointment. After all, they deemed that acceptable for my children's appointments over the past couple of years (I deemed it to be a form of medical malpractice). Unfortunately, the remote option does not help you much. I don't know of any recourse in Canada. I keep hoping that these 'super hypochondriacs' will wake up to reality at some point.
Thank you, Dr. Bridle. So frustrating, and I agree with you it's a type of malpractice. It does not give one confidence in their judgement, that's for sure. It has been my fear that something would happen to my husband to force me to deal with it, and now here it is. It's worse because his first language is not English and I really should be there with him to translate. It will have to be done by phone.
As you know, in Canada this is the health authority meme: messaging that suggests COVID-19 ‘vaccines’ can reduce hospitalizations and deaths while being unable to prevent infection or transmission. Once that meme is publicly and properly debunked, their house of cards, and all their followers who religiously chant this mantra will have no leg left to stand on. I would really like to live to see the day when all the authorities pushing this on us are forced to pay the piper, publicly and legally.
Jan 24, 2023·edited Jan 25, 2023Liked by Dr. Byram W. Bridle
I respectfully disagree with Steve Kirsch’s description of what Dr. Bridle concluded. He did not say there was no net benefit. He said there was a loss. In football terms not just no positive yards, but a loss. Tackled behind the line of scrimmage. It is now 4th and 99.
Hmmm... Doesn't work if using the App though. Just tried to "edit" my own comment. No dice.
I just downloaded the app the other day... Will need to uninstall and just get in to each Stack via my email notification. (Substack wasn't notifying me of new posts, therefore I downloaded the app.)
They're trying very hard, but the system can be thwarted. 😉
I'm not 10, and not that tech savvy, but will let you know if I succeeded.
EDIT: Yep, it's working for me again Terence.
After uninstalling the "Substack Reader" app, going back into this Substack post from my email norification, and finding my replies to your comment, and clicking on the 3 dots:
It gave me the "edit comment" pop-up option and shazaam! I was able to edit and re-post this adendum by hitting "Save."😁
Good luck. If you feel like going to the trouble of correcting Kirsch.
You and Steve actually have great chemistry, which isn’t always the case with Steve, haha. Even in friendly interviews he can be a bit overbearing, but your quick confidence in the subject matter neutralizes his overzealousness 👍
Thank you Bryam Bridle! Whether we know it or not, we are at war in Canada and I'm not talking about Ukraine. Its a war against totalitarianism and one lead member of the cannonfodder brigade is Jordan Peterson!
Anecdotally, my clinical experience seemed to indicate that covid was less severe in the vaxxed for the first year, but it switched at the end of delta and started effecting the vaxxed more. I think it was because a lot of covid damage was inflammatory and the vax suppressed the immune system, making them seem less sick, but after a few shots, they now have a hard time fighting it off in a reasonable amount of time.
Most symptoms being expressed are not the disease, but rather the immune system fighting the disease. A limp is a symptom. It isn’t the disease, which might be a torn ligament. We don’t fix the limp, we fix the damaged muscle/joint etc. When a person is vehemently sneezing sweating coughing etc this isn’t bad. It is the body ridding itself vigorously of what it needs to. It makes sense the vaxed wouldn’t exhibit symptoms as strongly. The pseudo uridine was shutting their immune system down. It couldn’t respond.
1. My understanding is that SARS-CoV-2 is an upper-respiratory virus, and that the primary entry areas are the mouth and nose.
2. Covid-19 can supposedly affect multiple systems of the body, such as the heart, neurology (lost taste), etc. In fact, long-covid (which I think is just an umbrella term) is a Covid-19 sequelae that can encompass many symptoms that aren't respiratory.
3. It's been said that the vaccines are supposed to prevent (or reduce the risk of hospitalization) and death.
4. To me, it seems that it would be much, much easier to prevent/reduce infection than it would be to reduce hospitalization. (Simply because SARS-CoV-2 usually only uses the respiratory pathways, whereas illness and hospitalization are not just limited to respiratory manifestations.)
5. So, I find it hard to believe that something that fails to do the easier job (prevent infection) can do the harder job of preventing multi-system illnesses and death.
Of course, I may be wrong in my thinking, but that's my understanding.
Have put your chat with Steve on my laptop ready to watch in the morning, (it's bedtime here in Italy 😉) I'm really looking forward to listening to both of you as I have followed you both since the beginning.
In London last weekend there was a big protest, but as usual no mention of it whatsoever on MSM, even though it took place right outside the BBC studios ! In Sweden, a huge meeting in a packed theatre, with doctors and the public, discussing vaccine injuries. There will also be some like that here in Italy - people are hopefully starting to wake up.
I haven't watched the interview yet, Dr. Bridle, but two thoughts immediately come to mind. One is the problem of different people quoting different studies to make opposing assertions. One site many people watch is CIDRAP, I think several times a week they report on studies which purport to show that the Covid vaccines are indeed conferring are advantage in terms of severe illness and death. You can scroll their articles at https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-briefs, I think the latest one is "Vaccinated pregnant women less prone to serious Omicron COVID," yesterday.
I know there are numerous issues which call into question the validity of various studies - i.e. that they may consider people unvaccinated until two weeks after their second shot or booster, and one side effect of the shot may be to inhibit the immune system so that people who get infected shortly after a jab may tend to develop serious illness - but there's quite a few of these studies being reported at CIDRAP and elsewhere so I think one goal of the alternative-pandemic-science movement should be to produce a professional-looking website which systematically reviews them. I think something like that is needed if the majority of doctors are to be convinced.
And I'll also just mention that Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, in his presentations, has explained in detail a scientific mechanism of action - far over my head to understand - by which he thinks the Covid vaccines are in fact conferring some advantage against serious illness and death - until, as he's been predicting, a vaccination-campaign-driven escape mutant overcomes that advantage and the vaccinated will, in his opinion, be left defenseless unless they're engaging in chemoprophylaxis with ivermectin and/or other antivirals. I would love to see you in conversation with Dr. Vanden Bossche, as I'm sure others would love to as well.
Yes, I would love to see Drs Bridle and Vanden Bossche speak, and perhaps collaborate. If there is ever to be any future for the technology of vaccination ( a technology I consider brilliant, yet I don't trust any of them - for humans, pets, or other animals, while there is no honest system wanting to make them safe, and no placebo trials ) - it would be through honest doctors like Bridle & Vanden Bossche!
I'm not much for Kirsch's sarcasm, so this was a tough one, but you navigated it well.
In a nutshell, they prioritized the search for efficacy in the real world (aka "Hopeful" science) before and over considering safety (i.e. skipped a thorough Phase I which tests for safety). Moreover, they excluded persons with natural immunity in the trials (there was no randomized controlled trial).
This backward approach was exacerbated by promoting the unproven, misleading “safe and effective” mantra, and continuing to push and coerce these experimental drugs.
Now, the effort is to eliminate the control group (the unvaxxed) through mandates, extra testing, and vax passports (in other words, treating them as second class citizens), in hopes no comparison can be made.
I applaud the Doctors and others who have stood up against this "Covid" vaccine. But, didn't we know, even before the "Covid" vax was unleashed on the public, that it's impossible to vax away a coronavirus? (and maybe every other illness). A corona vax won't help individuals nor will it help with the 'herd immunity' factor. Impossible. In fact, vaccinating a corona actually will cause more problems for everyone involved as it squishes out crazy variants.
So, we knew we can't vax away a corona now, nor looking 1,000 years out. Am I wrong?
And we KNEW that all vaccines are very dangerous (Russian Roulette); and I'm not just talking sudden death. Vaccines create/cause every disease known to mankind.
Combining the above two, shouldn't all of medicine known this 'vaccine' was destined to do much harm and zero good from day one? Why were so many Frontline Doctors saying that certain 'at risk' people, old & young, should take the "Covid" vaccine? Why are many still pushing the crappy annual Flu "Vaccine" ?
One issue with saying a disease is less severe with or without a vax is what does that mean? For example is a person with a high fever and much sneezing sicker than someone with a bit of fever and isn’t sneezing? Or is that person fighting the bug more vigorously? The expression of the symptom is NOT the disease even though we tend to think it is. In Ayurveda, the indigenous form of medicine from India, a symptom is considered a good thing in many if not most situations. That is the body doing what it is supposed to do. If a bug is ingested a vigorous defense is better not worse. If you burn it up, sneeze it out, sweat it out, cough it out those are good things. You don’t suppress them. You might control them if they are causing distress in other ways. But you shouldn’t shut that down.
For example, care home operators often can tell when the end is near. Most people
in a care home, likely everyone even, die with a virus or two. And an infection or two. It isn’t they get really sick. It is when they stop Responding and then get a ‘slight’ cough or cold. It isn’t the cold is slight only their response is muted. Their immune systems can’t respond anymore. The cold technically kills them. But not really. They are shutting down and something takes them. Something that would have been nothing thirty years earlier. They aren’t necessarily barely sick. It is the virus or bacteria runs through their system Unchecked. Prior to COVID these were referred to as ‘natural causes’.
Just finished watching your interview with Steve- as always something to keep for my files . I"m glad to see you are "allowed " to stay in your basement as per your employer - very kind of them . Are you allowed in the rest of your house as well ? It is all a totally insane scenario, in my opinion, and so glad you are one of the wonderful heroes we have here in Canada. Hope to be seeing a prison break from your basement one day soon with data that can be debated .
Wth 90% of the adult population “vaccinated” there will need to be piles of bodies before there is any debate in Canada.
Even then.
They're very good at pulling rabbits out of hats like Bullwinkle.
Didja know we now have 'Stroke Season' now? And they say it with a straight face.
So this troubling problem goes much deeper than we care to believe or think.
Dr. Bridle, this is a bit off topic, but I'd love your input if you have a chance. I am having to deal with healthcare for my husband lately. I was refused entry to the hospital to accompany him because I won't wear a mask, and the same is sure to happen at the various doctors and clinics he now has to go to for followup appointments. Do we have any recourse against this in Canada? It seems healthcare providers have all turned into super hypochondriacs, they are still doing their ridiculous covid screening and saying you can't come to your appointment if you have cold symptoms. Thanks in advance if you have the chance to answer this.
Indeed, this is a problem. My physician recently refused to renew a prescription until I met with them for a check-up. They tried to make me attend in-person and wear a mask. I insisted on a remote appointment. After all, they deemed that acceptable for my children's appointments over the past couple of years (I deemed it to be a form of medical malpractice). Unfortunately, the remote option does not help you much. I don't know of any recourse in Canada. I keep hoping that these 'super hypochondriacs' will wake up to reality at some point.
Thank you, Dr. Bridle. So frustrating, and I agree with you it's a type of malpractice. It does not give one confidence in their judgement, that's for sure. It has been my fear that something would happen to my husband to force me to deal with it, and now here it is. It's worse because his first language is not English and I really should be there with him to translate. It will have to be done by phone.
As you know, in Canada this is the health authority meme: messaging that suggests COVID-19 ‘vaccines’ can reduce hospitalizations and deaths while being unable to prevent infection or transmission. Once that meme is publicly and properly debunked, their house of cards, and all their followers who religiously chant this mantra will have no leg left to stand on. I would really like to live to see the day when all the authorities pushing this on us are forced to pay the piper, publicly and legally.
They will never be held accountable, but support for the “vaccine” will literally die out.
Accountability is elusive since any individual who may have been directly associated with a poor decision simply disappears by moving elsewhere.
Unfortunately that is true for politicians and bureaucrats generally.
I respectfully disagree with Steve Kirsch’s description of what Dr. Bridle concluded. He did not say there was no net benefit. He said there was a loss. In football terms not just no positive yards, but a loss. Tackled behind the line of scrimmage. It is now 4th and 99.
I want to correct the spelling of Kirsch but do not see that feature on my iPad and there isn’t a 10 year old available to show me how. 
Edit. Now corrected. So I can act like a 10 year old, after all. If properly directed. Thank you Ynona Ynot.
Hmmm... Doesn't work if using the App though. Just tried to "edit" my own comment. No dice.
I just downloaded the app the other day... Will need to uninstall and just get in to each Stack via my email notification. (Substack wasn't notifying me of new posts, therefore I downloaded the app.)
They're trying very hard, but the system can be thwarted. 😉
I'm not 10, and not that tech savvy, but will let you know if I succeeded.
EDIT: Yep, it's working for me again Terence.
After uninstalling the "Substack Reader" app, going back into this Substack post from my email norification, and finding my replies to your comment, and clicking on the 3 dots:
It gave me the "edit comment" pop-up option and shazaam! I was able to edit and re-post this adendum by hitting "Save."😁
Good luck. If you feel like going to the trouble of correcting Kirsch.
An old dog can learn new tricks.
I think you can do this on your phone. And I can do it on an old pad as well.
Click on the 3 dots, to the bottom right of your comment.
"Edit Comment" any way you wish. Then click the done icon to repost.
Good luck.
EDIT: That function won't work if using the Substack app. So I uninstalled it and voila. Success.
Now, I will hit "Save". 😉
You and Steve actually have great chemistry, which isn’t always the case with Steve, haha. Even in friendly interviews he can be a bit overbearing, but your quick confidence in the subject matter neutralizes his overzealousness 👍
Thank you Bryam Bridle! Whether we know it or not, we are at war in Canada and I'm not talking about Ukraine. Its a war against totalitarianism and one lead member of the cannonfodder brigade is Jordan Peterson!
Great article if you haven't read it yet.
https://brownstone.org/articles/jordan-peterson-against-the-spirit-of-totalitarianism/
“Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once.”
― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar
and that death appears with every LIE...
Anecdotally, my clinical experience seemed to indicate that covid was less severe in the vaxxed for the first year, but it switched at the end of delta and started effecting the vaxxed more. I think it was because a lot of covid damage was inflammatory and the vax suppressed the immune system, making them seem less sick, but after a few shots, they now have a hard time fighting it off in a reasonable amount of time.
Most symptoms being expressed are not the disease, but rather the immune system fighting the disease. A limp is a symptom. It isn’t the disease, which might be a torn ligament. We don’t fix the limp, we fix the damaged muscle/joint etc. When a person is vehemently sneezing sweating coughing etc this isn’t bad. It is the body ridding itself vigorously of what it needs to. It makes sense the vaxed wouldn’t exhibit symptoms as strongly. The pseudo uridine was shutting their immune system down. It couldn’t respond.
Here's how I think of it:
1. My understanding is that SARS-CoV-2 is an upper-respiratory virus, and that the primary entry areas are the mouth and nose.
2. Covid-19 can supposedly affect multiple systems of the body, such as the heart, neurology (lost taste), etc. In fact, long-covid (which I think is just an umbrella term) is a Covid-19 sequelae that can encompass many symptoms that aren't respiratory.
3. It's been said that the vaccines are supposed to prevent (or reduce the risk of hospitalization) and death.
4. To me, it seems that it would be much, much easier to prevent/reduce infection than it would be to reduce hospitalization. (Simply because SARS-CoV-2 usually only uses the respiratory pathways, whereas illness and hospitalization are not just limited to respiratory manifestations.)
5. So, I find it hard to believe that something that fails to do the easier job (prevent infection) can do the harder job of preventing multi-system illnesses and death.
Of course, I may be wrong in my thinking, but that's my understanding.
Have put your chat with Steve on my laptop ready to watch in the morning, (it's bedtime here in Italy 😉) I'm really looking forward to listening to both of you as I have followed you both since the beginning.
In London last weekend there was a big protest, but as usual no mention of it whatsoever on MSM, even though it took place right outside the BBC studios ! In Sweden, a huge meeting in a packed theatre, with doctors and the public, discussing vaccine injuries. There will also be some like that here in Italy - people are hopefully starting to wake up.
From "The March of the Dead", almost 15 months ago.
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/march-of-the-vaccine-dead-protest-in-italy-british-cardiologist-confirms-aha-study-that-covid-19-shots-causing-heart-attacks/
"La gente come noi non molla mai."
Well, hopefully, this will help Steve to recognize that these shots are indeed a bioweapon.
I could never figure out how you could measure that the shot made the illness less severe.
I haven't watched the interview yet, Dr. Bridle, but two thoughts immediately come to mind. One is the problem of different people quoting different studies to make opposing assertions. One site many people watch is CIDRAP, I think several times a week they report on studies which purport to show that the Covid vaccines are indeed conferring are advantage in terms of severe illness and death. You can scroll their articles at https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-briefs, I think the latest one is "Vaccinated pregnant women less prone to serious Omicron COVID," yesterday.
I know there are numerous issues which call into question the validity of various studies - i.e. that they may consider people unvaccinated until two weeks after their second shot or booster, and one side effect of the shot may be to inhibit the immune system so that people who get infected shortly after a jab may tend to develop serious illness - but there's quite a few of these studies being reported at CIDRAP and elsewhere so I think one goal of the alternative-pandemic-science movement should be to produce a professional-looking website which systematically reviews them. I think something like that is needed if the majority of doctors are to be convinced.
And I'll also just mention that Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, in his presentations, has explained in detail a scientific mechanism of action - far over my head to understand - by which he thinks the Covid vaccines are in fact conferring some advantage against serious illness and death - until, as he's been predicting, a vaccination-campaign-driven escape mutant overcomes that advantage and the vaccinated will, in his opinion, be left defenseless unless they're engaging in chemoprophylaxis with ivermectin and/or other antivirals. I would love to see you in conversation with Dr. Vanden Bossche, as I'm sure others would love to as well.
Yes, I would love to see Drs Bridle and Vanden Bossche speak, and perhaps collaborate. If there is ever to be any future for the technology of vaccination ( a technology I consider brilliant, yet I don't trust any of them - for humans, pets, or other animals, while there is no honest system wanting to make them safe, and no placebo trials ) - it would be through honest doctors like Bridle & Vanden Bossche!
I'm not much for Kirsch's sarcasm, so this was a tough one, but you navigated it well.
In a nutshell, they prioritized the search for efficacy in the real world (aka "Hopeful" science) before and over considering safety (i.e. skipped a thorough Phase I which tests for safety). Moreover, they excluded persons with natural immunity in the trials (there was no randomized controlled trial).
This backward approach was exacerbated by promoting the unproven, misleading “safe and effective” mantra, and continuing to push and coerce these experimental drugs.
Now, the effort is to eliminate the control group (the unvaxxed) through mandates, extra testing, and vax passports (in other words, treating them as second class citizens), in hopes no comparison can be made.
Here is my effort to understand why people with good hearts have reacted quite differently and why many went along with this - https://leemuller.substack.com/p/good-people-divided-and-an-explanation
I’m not much for your unjustified first sentence, so I’ll forego the pleasure of reading your theory.
Dr. Bridle, a question.
I applaud the Doctors and others who have stood up against this "Covid" vaccine. But, didn't we know, even before the "Covid" vax was unleashed on the public, that it's impossible to vax away a coronavirus? (and maybe every other illness). A corona vax won't help individuals nor will it help with the 'herd immunity' factor. Impossible. In fact, vaccinating a corona actually will cause more problems for everyone involved as it squishes out crazy variants.
So, we knew we can't vax away a corona now, nor looking 1,000 years out. Am I wrong?
And we KNEW that all vaccines are very dangerous (Russian Roulette); and I'm not just talking sudden death. Vaccines create/cause every disease known to mankind.
Combining the above two, shouldn't all of medicine known this 'vaccine' was destined to do much harm and zero good from day one? Why were so many Frontline Doctors saying that certain 'at risk' people, old & young, should take the "Covid" vaccine? Why are many still pushing the crappy annual Flu "Vaccine" ?
Obviously, I'm missing something.
One issue with saying a disease is less severe with or without a vax is what does that mean? For example is a person with a high fever and much sneezing sicker than someone with a bit of fever and isn’t sneezing? Or is that person fighting the bug more vigorously? The expression of the symptom is NOT the disease even though we tend to think it is. In Ayurveda, the indigenous form of medicine from India, a symptom is considered a good thing in many if not most situations. That is the body doing what it is supposed to do. If a bug is ingested a vigorous defense is better not worse. If you burn it up, sneeze it out, sweat it out, cough it out those are good things. You don’t suppress them. You might control them if they are causing distress in other ways. But you shouldn’t shut that down.
For example, care home operators often can tell when the end is near. Most people
in a care home, likely everyone even, die with a virus or two. And an infection or two. It isn’t they get really sick. It is when they stop Responding and then get a ‘slight’ cough or cold. It isn’t the cold is slight only their response is muted. Their immune systems can’t respond anymore. The cold technically kills them. But not really. They are shutting down and something takes them. Something that would have been nothing thirty years earlier. They aren’t necessarily barely sick. It is the virus or bacteria runs through their system Unchecked. Prior to COVID these were referred to as ‘natural causes’.