Steve Kirsch, who lives in the United States of America, contacted me to ask if there were immunological mechanisms that I was aware of that would explain public health messaging that suggests COVID-19 ‘vaccines’ can reduce hospitalizations and deaths while being unable to prevent infection or transmission. I gave him a fulsome answer when we chatted yesterday. It is based on Pfizer’s gold-standard phase 3 clinical trial data. If interested, here is the
Just finished watching your interview with Steve- as always something to keep for my files . I"m glad to see you are "allowed " to stay in your basement as per your employer - very kind of them . Are you allowed in the rest of your house as well ? It is all a totally insane scenario, in my opinion, and so glad you are one of the wonderful heroes we have here in Canada. Hope to be seeing a prison break from your basement one day soon with data that can be debated .
Dr. Bridle, this is a bit off topic, but I'd love your input if you have a chance. I am having to deal with healthcare for my husband lately. I was refused entry to the hospital to accompany him because I won't wear a mask, and the same is sure to happen at the various doctors and clinics he now has to go to for followup appointments. Do we have any recourse against this in Canada? It seems healthcare providers have all turned into super hypochondriacs, they are still doing their ridiculous covid screening and saying you can't come to your appointment if you have cold symptoms. Thanks in advance if you have the chance to answer this.
As you know, in Canada this is the health authority meme: messaging that suggests COVID-19 ‘vaccines’ can reduce hospitalizations and deaths while being unable to prevent infection or transmission. Once that meme is publicly and properly debunked, their house of cards, and all their followers who religiously chant this mantra will have no leg left to stand on. I would really like to live to see the day when all the authorities pushing this on us are forced to pay the piper, publicly and legally.
Jan 24, 2023·edited Jan 25, 2023Liked by Dr. Byram W. Bridle
I respectfully disagree with Steve Kirsch’s description of what Dr. Bridle concluded. He did not say there was no net benefit. He said there was a loss. In football terms not just no positive yards, but a loss. Tackled behind the line of scrimmage. It is now 4th and 99.
You and Steve actually have great chemistry, which isn’t always the case with Steve, haha. Even in friendly interviews he can be a bit overbearing, but your quick confidence in the subject matter neutralizes his overzealousness 👍
Thank you Bryam Bridle! Whether we know it or not, we are at war in Canada and I'm not talking about Ukraine. Its a war against totalitarianism and one lead member of the cannonfodder brigade is Jordan Peterson!
Anecdotally, my clinical experience seemed to indicate that covid was less severe in the vaxxed for the first year, but it switched at the end of delta and started effecting the vaxxed more. I think it was because a lot of covid damage was inflammatory and the vax suppressed the immune system, making them seem less sick, but after a few shots, they now have a hard time fighting it off in a reasonable amount of time.
1. My understanding is that SARS-CoV-2 is an upper-respiratory virus, and that the primary entry areas are the mouth and nose.
2. Covid-19 can supposedly affect multiple systems of the body, such as the heart, neurology (lost taste), etc. In fact, long-covid (which I think is just an umbrella term) is a Covid-19 sequelae that can encompass many symptoms that aren't respiratory.
3. It's been said that the vaccines are supposed to prevent (or reduce the risk of hospitalization) and death.
4. To me, it seems that it would be much, much easier to prevent/reduce infection than it would be to reduce hospitalization. (Simply because SARS-CoV-2 usually only uses the respiratory pathways, whereas illness and hospitalization are not just limited to respiratory manifestations.)
5. So, I find it hard to believe that something that fails to do the easier job (prevent infection) can do the harder job of preventing multi-system illnesses and death.
Of course, I may be wrong in my thinking, but that's my understanding.
Have put your chat with Steve on my laptop ready to watch in the morning, (it's bedtime here in Italy 😉) I'm really looking forward to listening to both of you as I have followed you both since the beginning.
In London last weekend there was a big protest, but as usual no mention of it whatsoever on MSM, even though it took place right outside the BBC studios ! In Sweden, a huge meeting in a packed theatre, with doctors and the public, discussing vaccine injuries. There will also be some like that here in Italy - people are hopefully starting to wake up.
I haven't watched the interview yet, Dr. Bridle, but two thoughts immediately come to mind. One is the problem of different people quoting different studies to make opposing assertions. One site many people watch is CIDRAP, I think several times a week they report on studies which purport to show that the Covid vaccines are indeed conferring are advantage in terms of severe illness and death. You can scroll their articles at https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-briefs, I think the latest one is "Vaccinated pregnant women less prone to serious Omicron COVID," yesterday.
I know there are numerous issues which call into question the validity of various studies - i.e. that they may consider people unvaccinated until two weeks after their second shot or booster, and one side effect of the shot may be to inhibit the immune system so that people who get infected shortly after a jab may tend to develop serious illness - but there's quite a few of these studies being reported at CIDRAP and elsewhere so I think one goal of the alternative-pandemic-science movement should be to produce a professional-looking website which systematically reviews them. I think something like that is needed if the majority of doctors are to be convinced.
And I'll also just mention that Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, in his presentations, has explained in detail a scientific mechanism of action - far over my head to understand - by which he thinks the Covid vaccines are in fact conferring some advantage against serious illness and death - until, as he's been predicting, a vaccination-campaign-driven escape mutant overcomes that advantage and the vaccinated will, in his opinion, be left defenseless unless they're engaging in chemoprophylaxis with ivermectin and/or other antivirals. I would love to see you in conversation with Dr. Vanden Bossche, as I'm sure others would love to as well.
I'm not much for Kirsch's sarcasm, so this was a tough one, but you navigated it well.
In a nutshell, they prioritized the search for efficacy in the real world (aka "Hopeful" science) before and over considering safety (i.e. skipped a thorough Phase I which tests for safety). Moreover, they excluded persons with natural immunity in the trials (there was no randomized controlled trial).
This backward approach was exacerbated by promoting the unproven, misleading “safe and effective” mantra, and continuing to push and coerce these experimental drugs.
Now, the effort is to eliminate the control group (the unvaxxed) through mandates, extra testing, and vax passports (in other words, treating them as second class citizens), in hopes no comparison can be made.
I applaud the Doctors and others who have stood up against this "Covid" vaccine. But, didn't we know, even before the "Covid" vax was unleashed on the public, that it's impossible to vax away a coronavirus? (and maybe every other illness). A corona vax won't help individuals nor will it help with the 'herd immunity' factor. Impossible. In fact, vaccinating a corona actually will cause more problems for everyone involved as it squishes out crazy variants.
So, we knew we can't vax away a corona now, nor looking 1,000 years out. Am I wrong?
And we KNEW that all vaccines are very dangerous (Russian Roulette); and I'm not just talking sudden death. Vaccines create/cause every disease known to mankind.
Combining the above two, shouldn't all of medicine known this 'vaccine' was destined to do much harm and zero good from day one? Why were so many Frontline Doctors saying that certain 'at risk' people, old & young, should take the "Covid" vaccine? Why are many still pushing the crappy annual Flu "Vaccine" ?
One issue with saying a disease is less severe with or without a vax is what does that mean? For example is a person with a high fever and much sneezing sicker than someone with a bit of fever and isn’t sneezing? Or is that person fighting the bug more vigorously? The expression of the symptom is NOT the disease even though we tend to think it is. In Ayurveda, the indigenous form of medicine from India, a symptom is considered a good thing in many if not most situations. That is the body doing what it is supposed to do. If a bug is ingested a vigorous defense is better not worse. If you burn it up, sneeze it out, sweat it out, cough it out those are good things. You don’t suppress them. You might control them if they are causing distress in other ways. But you shouldn’t shut that down.
Just finished watching your interview with Steve- as always something to keep for my files . I"m glad to see you are "allowed " to stay in your basement as per your employer - very kind of them . Are you allowed in the rest of your house as well ? It is all a totally insane scenario, in my opinion, and so glad you are one of the wonderful heroes we have here in Canada. Hope to be seeing a prison break from your basement one day soon with data that can be debated .
Dr. Bridle, this is a bit off topic, but I'd love your input if you have a chance. I am having to deal with healthcare for my husband lately. I was refused entry to the hospital to accompany him because I won't wear a mask, and the same is sure to happen at the various doctors and clinics he now has to go to for followup appointments. Do we have any recourse against this in Canada? It seems healthcare providers have all turned into super hypochondriacs, they are still doing their ridiculous covid screening and saying you can't come to your appointment if you have cold symptoms. Thanks in advance if you have the chance to answer this.
As you know, in Canada this is the health authority meme: messaging that suggests COVID-19 ‘vaccines’ can reduce hospitalizations and deaths while being unable to prevent infection or transmission. Once that meme is publicly and properly debunked, their house of cards, and all their followers who religiously chant this mantra will have no leg left to stand on. I would really like to live to see the day when all the authorities pushing this on us are forced to pay the piper, publicly and legally.
I respectfully disagree with Steve Kirsch’s description of what Dr. Bridle concluded. He did not say there was no net benefit. He said there was a loss. In football terms not just no positive yards, but a loss. Tackled behind the line of scrimmage. It is now 4th and 99.
You and Steve actually have great chemistry, which isn’t always the case with Steve, haha. Even in friendly interviews he can be a bit overbearing, but your quick confidence in the subject matter neutralizes his overzealousness 👍
Thank you Bryam Bridle! Whether we know it or not, we are at war in Canada and I'm not talking about Ukraine. Its a war against totalitarianism and one lead member of the cannonfodder brigade is Jordan Peterson!
Great article if you haven't read it yet.
https://brownstone.org/articles/jordan-peterson-against-the-spirit-of-totalitarianism/
“Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once.”
― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar
Anecdotally, my clinical experience seemed to indicate that covid was less severe in the vaxxed for the first year, but it switched at the end of delta and started effecting the vaxxed more. I think it was because a lot of covid damage was inflammatory and the vax suppressed the immune system, making them seem less sick, but after a few shots, they now have a hard time fighting it off in a reasonable amount of time.
Here's how I think of it:
1. My understanding is that SARS-CoV-2 is an upper-respiratory virus, and that the primary entry areas are the mouth and nose.
2. Covid-19 can supposedly affect multiple systems of the body, such as the heart, neurology (lost taste), etc. In fact, long-covid (which I think is just an umbrella term) is a Covid-19 sequelae that can encompass many symptoms that aren't respiratory.
3. It's been said that the vaccines are supposed to prevent (or reduce the risk of hospitalization) and death.
4. To me, it seems that it would be much, much easier to prevent/reduce infection than it would be to reduce hospitalization. (Simply because SARS-CoV-2 usually only uses the respiratory pathways, whereas illness and hospitalization are not just limited to respiratory manifestations.)
5. So, I find it hard to believe that something that fails to do the easier job (prevent infection) can do the harder job of preventing multi-system illnesses and death.
Of course, I may be wrong in my thinking, but that's my understanding.
Have put your chat with Steve on my laptop ready to watch in the morning, (it's bedtime here in Italy 😉) I'm really looking forward to listening to both of you as I have followed you both since the beginning.
In London last weekend there was a big protest, but as usual no mention of it whatsoever on MSM, even though it took place right outside the BBC studios ! In Sweden, a huge meeting in a packed theatre, with doctors and the public, discussing vaccine injuries. There will also be some like that here in Italy - people are hopefully starting to wake up.
Well, hopefully, this will help Steve to recognize that these shots are indeed a bioweapon.
I could never figure out how you could measure that the shot made the illness less severe.
I haven't watched the interview yet, Dr. Bridle, but two thoughts immediately come to mind. One is the problem of different people quoting different studies to make opposing assertions. One site many people watch is CIDRAP, I think several times a week they report on studies which purport to show that the Covid vaccines are indeed conferring are advantage in terms of severe illness and death. You can scroll their articles at https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-briefs, I think the latest one is "Vaccinated pregnant women less prone to serious Omicron COVID," yesterday.
I know there are numerous issues which call into question the validity of various studies - i.e. that they may consider people unvaccinated until two weeks after their second shot or booster, and one side effect of the shot may be to inhibit the immune system so that people who get infected shortly after a jab may tend to develop serious illness - but there's quite a few of these studies being reported at CIDRAP and elsewhere so I think one goal of the alternative-pandemic-science movement should be to produce a professional-looking website which systematically reviews them. I think something like that is needed if the majority of doctors are to be convinced.
And I'll also just mention that Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, in his presentations, has explained in detail a scientific mechanism of action - far over my head to understand - by which he thinks the Covid vaccines are in fact conferring some advantage against serious illness and death - until, as he's been predicting, a vaccination-campaign-driven escape mutant overcomes that advantage and the vaccinated will, in his opinion, be left defenseless unless they're engaging in chemoprophylaxis with ivermectin and/or other antivirals. I would love to see you in conversation with Dr. Vanden Bossche, as I'm sure others would love to as well.
I'm not much for Kirsch's sarcasm, so this was a tough one, but you navigated it well.
In a nutshell, they prioritized the search for efficacy in the real world (aka "Hopeful" science) before and over considering safety (i.e. skipped a thorough Phase I which tests for safety). Moreover, they excluded persons with natural immunity in the trials (there was no randomized controlled trial).
This backward approach was exacerbated by promoting the unproven, misleading “safe and effective” mantra, and continuing to push and coerce these experimental drugs.
Now, the effort is to eliminate the control group (the unvaxxed) through mandates, extra testing, and vax passports (in other words, treating them as second class citizens), in hopes no comparison can be made.
Here is my effort to understand why people with good hearts have reacted quite differently and why many went along with this - https://leemuller.substack.com/p/good-people-divided-and-an-explanation
Dr. Bridle, a question.
I applaud the Doctors and others who have stood up against this "Covid" vaccine. But, didn't we know, even before the "Covid" vax was unleashed on the public, that it's impossible to vax away a coronavirus? (and maybe every other illness). A corona vax won't help individuals nor will it help with the 'herd immunity' factor. Impossible. In fact, vaccinating a corona actually will cause more problems for everyone involved as it squishes out crazy variants.
So, we knew we can't vax away a corona now, nor looking 1,000 years out. Am I wrong?
And we KNEW that all vaccines are very dangerous (Russian Roulette); and I'm not just talking sudden death. Vaccines create/cause every disease known to mankind.
Combining the above two, shouldn't all of medicine known this 'vaccine' was destined to do much harm and zero good from day one? Why were so many Frontline Doctors saying that certain 'at risk' people, old & young, should take the "Covid" vaccine? Why are many still pushing the crappy annual Flu "Vaccine" ?
Obviously, I'm missing something.
One issue with saying a disease is less severe with or without a vax is what does that mean? For example is a person with a high fever and much sneezing sicker than someone with a bit of fever and isn’t sneezing? Or is that person fighting the bug more vigorously? The expression of the symptom is NOT the disease even though we tend to think it is. In Ayurveda, the indigenous form of medicine from India, a symptom is considered a good thing in many if not most situations. That is the body doing what it is supposed to do. If a bug is ingested a vigorous defense is better not worse. If you burn it up, sneeze it out, sweat it out, cough it out those are good things. You don’t suppress them. You might control them if they are causing distress in other ways. But you shouldn’t shut that down.